WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00:01.002 --> 00:00:03.941 [ominous music] 2 00:00:04.008 --> 00:00:11.155 ♪♪ ♪♪ 3 00:00:17.769 --> 00:00:20.206 [phone line beeps] 4 00:01:08.671 --> 00:01:10.341 - You will never have to question 5 00:01:10.407 --> 00:01:11.877 my love or devotion to you, 6 00:01:11.943 --> 00:01:13.046 because there's nothing else 7 00:01:13.113 --> 00:01:14.550 that I want to spend my time doing 8 00:01:14.617 --> 00:01:16.553 except showing you those things. 9 00:01:32.953 --> 00:01:39.232 ♪♪ ♪♪ 10 00:01:39.298 --> 00:01:42.204 [dramatic music] 11 00:01:42.271 --> 00:01:49.418 ♪♪ ♪♪ 12 00:01:51.289 --> 00:01:54.562 [birds chirping] 13 00:01:56.098 --> 00:01:59.204 [church bells tolling] 14 00:02:07.354 --> 00:02:08.524 ANDREA: When we started this, 15 00:02:08.590 --> 00:02:10.695 did you have any idea this little podcast 16 00:02:10.762 --> 00:02:12.699 that we talked about on the phone 17 00:02:12.766 --> 00:02:16.472 would turn into the number-one podcast 18 00:02:16.540 --> 00:02:19.580 with millions of listeners? JENIFER: No. 19 00:02:19.647 --> 00:02:23.854 For me, it was really hard to make sense of everything, 20 00:02:23.921 --> 00:02:25.758 what my husband did, 21 00:02:25.825 --> 00:02:30.166 and we were just kind of following where it led us. 22 00:02:30.233 --> 00:02:33.373 And every person that's heard my story 23 00:02:33.440 --> 00:02:35.044 can't believe it, 24 00:02:35.110 --> 00:02:39.252 except for someone who has gone through something similar. 25 00:02:39.318 --> 00:02:41.489 I mean, it's helped a lot of people, I think. 26 00:02:41.557 --> 00:02:42.892 ANDREA: Yeah, absolutely. 27 00:02:42.959 --> 00:02:47.803 - But, obviously, there's a lot more to uncover. 28 00:02:47.869 --> 00:02:50.808 [dramatic music] 29 00:02:50.875 --> 00:02:55.952 ♪♪ ♪♪ 30 00:02:56.019 --> 00:02:58.256 My name is Jenifer Faison. 31 00:02:58.323 --> 00:03:00.293 For the past five years, 32 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:02.331 I've been on a journey 33 00:03:02.398 --> 00:03:05.771 of discovery, of healing 34 00:03:05.838 --> 00:03:09.580 from a trauma that actually started for me in college, 35 00:03:09.647 --> 00:03:12.117 even if I didn't know it yet. 36 00:03:12.184 --> 00:03:15.056 ♪♪ ♪♪ 37 00:03:15.123 --> 00:03:18.731 I transferred to Berry College my junior year. 38 00:03:18.798 --> 00:03:20.668 ♪♪ ♪♪ 39 00:03:20.735 --> 00:03:22.539 JOSH: Berry College is located 40 00:03:22.606 --> 00:03:25.912 in the northwest corner of the state of Georgia. 41 00:03:25.979 --> 00:03:28.651 There are only about 1,500 students there. 42 00:03:28.718 --> 00:03:31.055 It was just a small, close-knit, family environment 43 00:03:31.122 --> 00:03:32.324 to go to school in. 44 00:03:32.391 --> 00:03:36.734 ♪♪ ♪♪ 45 00:03:36.801 --> 00:03:38.402 JENIFER: When I was at Berry, 46 00:03:38.469 --> 00:03:42.512 I just felt like I fit in and I belonged. 47 00:03:42.579 --> 00:03:44.382 My major was communications, 48 00:03:44.449 --> 00:03:47.187 and we had a television station. 49 00:03:47.254 --> 00:03:50.160 [upbeat music] 50 00:03:50.227 --> 00:03:54.903 ♪♪ ♪♪ 51 00:03:54.970 --> 00:03:58.409 I went to the first meeting for the television station. 52 00:03:58.476 --> 00:04:01.416 ♪♪ ♪♪ 53 00:04:01.482 --> 00:04:05.758 And Spence was sitting up on the stage. 54 00:04:05.825 --> 00:04:09.732 And I was walking down toward him, 55 00:04:09.799 --> 00:04:13.106 and he looked at me and smiled. 56 00:04:13.173 --> 00:04:16.012 And then that was just kind of it. 57 00:04:16.078 --> 00:04:19.118 I mean, that was the moment that everything just changed. 58 00:04:19.185 --> 00:04:21.690 ♪♪ ♪♪ 59 00:04:21.757 --> 00:04:24.629 - They started dating probably around September, 60 00:04:24.696 --> 00:04:27.735 maybe October of that first year of school. 61 00:04:29.371 --> 00:04:31.442 JOSH: Spencer was certainly well-known around campus, 62 00:04:31.509 --> 00:04:33.748 not just because of his involvement with BCTV. 63 00:04:33.815 --> 00:04:35.652 Spencer was the station manager at the time. 64 00:04:35.718 --> 00:04:37.723 - A new mall, a bigger mall, 65 00:04:37.789 --> 00:04:39.526 and a better mall than Riverbend. 66 00:04:39.592 --> 00:04:40.895 JOSH: He was just one of those people 67 00:04:40.962 --> 00:04:43.033 who had an outgoing and charismatic personality. 68 00:04:43.099 --> 00:04:45.303 - Spence Herron, WBCS News. 69 00:04:45.370 --> 00:04:47.808 JENIFER: Spence had a great group of friends at Berry. 70 00:04:47.875 --> 00:04:51.382 And I'll never forget, they did this lip-sync concert. 71 00:04:51.449 --> 00:04:55.691 And it was this medley of New Kids on the Block songs. 72 00:04:55.758 --> 00:04:57.428 SINGER: ♪♪ I can see it in your walk ♪♪ 73 00:04:57.494 --> 00:04:59.633 ♪♪ Tell it when you talk ♪♪ 74 00:04:59.699 --> 00:05:01.904 ♪♪ See it in everything you do ♪♪ 75 00:05:01.970 --> 00:05:05.210 JOSH: Spencer had the sort of guy-next-door, 76 00:05:05.277 --> 00:05:07.047 Boy Scout/Eagle Scout affect. 77 00:05:07.114 --> 00:05:09.318 - It used to be lined with trees on both sides, 78 00:05:09.385 --> 00:05:10.989 all the way from the horse stables 79 00:05:11.055 --> 00:05:13.260 down to the Possum Trot site itself. 80 00:05:13.326 --> 00:05:14.997 Now it's lined with dirt. 81 00:05:15.063 --> 00:05:16.834 - He was the kind of guy that you knew if you needed help 82 00:05:16.901 --> 00:05:18.971 moving a couch into your third-story dorm room, 83 00:05:19.037 --> 00:05:20.575 Spencer would show up and help you move the couch 84 00:05:20.642 --> 00:05:22.044 into your dorm room. 85 00:05:22.111 --> 00:05:25.017 And I think, in fact, I asked him to do that once. 86 00:05:25.083 --> 00:05:27.053 APRIL: Jenifer really liked Spence, 87 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.559 and Spence really liked Jenifer, too. 88 00:05:29.626 --> 00:05:31.096 They were a good match. 89 00:05:31.162 --> 00:05:33.066 JOSH: Spencer and Jenifer were inseparable. 90 00:05:33.133 --> 00:05:36.005 If I saw one walking across campus, I would look nearby, 91 00:05:36.072 --> 00:05:38.811 and I was almost guaranteed to see the other. 92 00:05:38.878 --> 00:05:40.881 They just always seemed like the perfect couple to me. 93 00:05:40.948 --> 00:05:43.621 - In today's fast-paced and highly mobile world, 94 00:05:43.687 --> 00:05:45.056 it is imperative that people 95 00:05:45.123 --> 00:05:46.960 can keep their work skills up to date. 96 00:05:47.027 --> 00:05:50.668 JENIFER: Spence was always so attentive, 97 00:05:50.735 --> 00:05:55.077 and making sure that I knew how he felt about me. 98 00:05:55.143 --> 00:05:57.782 Every day we would pass each other in the hallways, 99 00:05:57.848 --> 00:06:00.153 and he would hand me a note. 100 00:06:00.220 --> 00:06:02.324 ♪♪ ♪♪ 101 00:06:02.391 --> 00:06:04.228 - You must have felt like you had, 102 00:06:04.295 --> 00:06:06.198 honestly, the best boyfriend... JENIFER: I did! 103 00:06:06.265 --> 00:06:08.771 - In the entire world. JENIFER: Oh, my gosh. 104 00:06:08.838 --> 00:06:12.043 Like, I kept this whole notebook, 105 00:06:12.110 --> 00:06:13.914 which I haven't looked at in a while either. 106 00:06:13.981 --> 00:06:15.518 - Mm, I don't know why I'm getting sad. 107 00:06:15.585 --> 00:06:18.791 - All the stuff that he gave me, 108 00:06:18.857 --> 00:06:22.698 like, every note that he passed me. 109 00:06:22.765 --> 00:06:25.303 - Stop it right now. - I kept it in a notebook. 110 00:06:25.370 --> 00:06:27.274 - Wait. Hold on. 111 00:06:27.340 --> 00:06:29.111 "News flash--it's official. 112 00:06:29.178 --> 00:06:31.281 "Spence Herron has just been named 113 00:06:31.348 --> 00:06:34.656 the luckiest man on campus." 114 00:06:34.723 --> 00:06:37.161 - That was his news flash. 115 00:06:37.227 --> 00:06:38.964 - I don't even want to read the rest of it, to be honest. 116 00:06:39.031 --> 00:06:41.603 - I know. "Jenifer, I can't believe that you chose me. 117 00:06:41.670 --> 00:06:44.041 "I know it's not a dream but a dream come true. 118 00:06:44.107 --> 00:06:46.913 I am now the happiest man on campus." 119 00:06:46.980 --> 00:06:48.918 ANDREA: This is all really sweet 120 00:06:48.984 --> 00:06:51.155 and, like, in the beginning, like, so nice. 121 00:06:51.221 --> 00:06:54.930 Was there ever a point where you were like, this is a lot? 122 00:06:54.997 --> 00:06:57.134 JENIFER: Um... 123 00:06:57.201 --> 00:06:58.303 I just enjoyed it. 124 00:06:58.369 --> 00:07:00.708 There wasn't anything bad 125 00:07:00.775 --> 00:07:02.845 that would, like, give you a red flag. 126 00:07:02.912 --> 00:07:04.381 Why would you question any of it? 127 00:07:04.448 --> 00:07:05.685 - Safe person. Yep. 128 00:07:05.751 --> 00:07:07.956 [soft music] 129 00:07:08.023 --> 00:07:11.428 JENIFER: We went to all the dances together. 130 00:07:11.495 --> 00:07:14.836 He was making me mix tapes. 131 00:07:14.903 --> 00:07:17.675 I remember one night, he cooked me dinner in the dorm, 132 00:07:17.742 --> 00:07:19.078 and he made a whole menu. 133 00:07:19.145 --> 00:07:22.017 He wrote it out and everything. 134 00:07:22.084 --> 00:07:26.125 It was really fun, and it was easy. 135 00:07:26.191 --> 00:07:30.200 It was just that perfect college relationship. 136 00:07:30.266 --> 00:07:32.638 We were definitely in love. 137 00:07:32.705 --> 00:07:35.310 Okay, this is Spence's senior year at Berry. 138 00:07:35.377 --> 00:07:37.214 Spence and I went up to Minnesota. 139 00:07:37.280 --> 00:07:38.951 It was his first plane ride. 140 00:07:39.018 --> 00:07:42.257 That's the first time that Spence really met 141 00:07:42.324 --> 00:07:43.828 all of my family. 142 00:07:43.894 --> 00:07:45.898 And... 143 00:07:45.965 --> 00:07:48.871 I mean, of course, they all just, like, 144 00:07:48.938 --> 00:07:51.810 fawned over him and loved him. 145 00:07:51.877 --> 00:07:53.981 GAIL: Our other daughter was getting married, 146 00:07:54.047 --> 00:07:56.653 and Jenifer was coming up for the wedding. 147 00:07:56.719 --> 00:08:00.828 And she said, would it be okay if Spence comes? 148 00:08:00.895 --> 00:08:04.736 And from the time we picked them up at the airport, 149 00:08:04.803 --> 00:08:07.675 it was, like, so comfortable. 150 00:08:07.742 --> 00:08:11.182 We had a terrible snowstorm that weekend, 151 00:08:11.249 --> 00:08:14.523 and Spence thought it would be fun to go out in the snow. 152 00:08:14.589 --> 00:08:16.659 And they go out in the yard, 153 00:08:16.726 --> 00:08:18.697 and they're playing in the snow. 154 00:08:18.764 --> 00:08:21.335 It was like two little kids out there. 155 00:08:21.401 --> 00:08:23.139 I mean, he's just adorable. 156 00:08:23.206 --> 00:08:27.549 They were so in love, and it was obvious. 157 00:08:27.615 --> 00:08:30.655 - We had very positive and strong feelings 158 00:08:30.722 --> 00:08:34.428 about Spence being a good person. 159 00:08:34.495 --> 00:08:37.835 GAIL: Jenifer's sister, Christy, was the first 160 00:08:37.902 --> 00:08:41.241 to refer to him as Saint Spence. 161 00:08:41.308 --> 00:08:44.783 He was the perfect person. 162 00:08:44.850 --> 00:08:46.520 He's the kind of person 163 00:08:46.587 --> 00:08:49.960 you wanted your daughter to marry. 164 00:08:50.026 --> 00:08:52.164 JENIFER: Spence was a year older than I was, 165 00:08:52.231 --> 00:08:53.399 and so he graduated, 166 00:08:53.466 --> 00:08:56.138 and I still had a year left at Berry. 167 00:08:56.205 --> 00:08:58.911 And I loved Spence, 168 00:08:58.978 --> 00:09:00.881 and we had a great relationship. 169 00:09:00.948 --> 00:09:04.087 Yet I still had a year. 170 00:09:05.991 --> 00:09:09.498 Oh, I'll never forget, right before my senior year, 171 00:09:09.566 --> 00:09:12.605 and we were on the phone-- a pay phone, of course. 172 00:09:12.671 --> 00:09:17.413 And it was one of the hardest conversations that I've had, 173 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.685 because I knew I was going to break his heart. 174 00:09:19.752 --> 00:09:21.957 And I had to tell him, 175 00:09:22.024 --> 00:09:26.031 I just want to be on my own my senior year... 176 00:09:26.098 --> 00:09:28.737 to have fun with my friends 177 00:09:28.804 --> 00:09:31.308 and not really be tied down to a boyfriend, 178 00:09:31.375 --> 00:09:33.781 especially one that I wasn't going to be able to see 179 00:09:33.847 --> 00:09:35.618 that often. 180 00:09:35.684 --> 00:09:37.387 He was pretty devastated. 181 00:09:37.454 --> 00:09:40.895 SINGER: ♪♪ Maybe it's okay, oh, not to be okay ♪♪ 182 00:09:40.962 --> 00:09:43.499 ♪♪ When everything's broken ♪♪ 183 00:09:43.567 --> 00:09:45.872 ♪♪ Oh, and you don't know if ♪♪ 184 00:09:45.938 --> 00:09:48.442 ♪♪ It's going to be okay ♪♪ 185 00:09:48.510 --> 00:09:51.348 ♪♪ We're going to be okay ♪♪ 186 00:09:56.024 --> 00:09:59.498 JENIFER: When I broke up with Spence... 187 00:09:59.566 --> 00:10:03.974 my family definitely questioned it. 188 00:10:04.041 --> 00:10:07.982 - I was disappointed that they were breaking up. 189 00:10:08.049 --> 00:10:10.420 JENIFER: My sister-- she couldn't believe it. 190 00:10:10.486 --> 00:10:13.193 She was like, you have this great guy. 191 00:10:13.259 --> 00:10:16.298 What more could you want? 192 00:10:16.365 --> 00:10:17.902 He was a great guy. 193 00:10:17.969 --> 00:10:22.144 It was just not the right time. 194 00:10:22.210 --> 00:10:23.914 APRIL: They were a really good couple, 195 00:10:23.981 --> 00:10:26.352 but I also think she knew 196 00:10:26.418 --> 00:10:28.389 that it was part of her life 197 00:10:28.456 --> 00:10:32.497 to experience more than just one relationship like that. 198 00:10:32.565 --> 00:10:35.403 JENIFER: And so we went our separate ways, 199 00:10:35.470 --> 00:10:39.312 and I just kind of kept moving forward. 200 00:10:39.378 --> 00:10:41.917 [serious music] 201 00:10:41.983 --> 00:10:45.724 After graduation, I moved home for about three years, 202 00:10:45.791 --> 00:10:48.196 worked at a radio station, 203 00:10:48.262 --> 00:10:52.237 and then decided to make the big move to LA to get into TV. 204 00:10:52.304 --> 00:10:55.142 [upbeat music] 205 00:10:55.209 --> 00:10:57.447 JEFFREY: She literally packed her car 206 00:10:57.515 --> 00:11:00.286 and drove to Los Angeles, 207 00:11:00.353 --> 00:11:03.426 and set up a life in California on her own. 208 00:11:03.493 --> 00:11:06.900 - My first job in television was with Judge Judy. 209 00:11:06.967 --> 00:11:08.537 ANNOUNCER: The people are real. 210 00:11:08.604 --> 00:11:10.072 The cases are real. 211 00:11:10.139 --> 00:11:12.411 The rulings are final. 212 00:11:12.477 --> 00:11:14.749 This is Judge Judy. 213 00:11:14.816 --> 00:11:17.755 - I worked on her show for about four years, 214 00:11:17.822 --> 00:11:21.061 and was nominated for two Emmys for that. 215 00:11:21.128 --> 00:11:23.198 Got to take my mom to the Emmys in New York 216 00:11:23.265 --> 00:11:25.102 and do the whole red carpet. 217 00:11:25.169 --> 00:11:27.373 So it was really fun. 218 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.244 And then I got the job 219 00:11:29.310 --> 00:11:31.783 on Extreme Makeover: Home Edition. 220 00:11:31.850 --> 00:11:33.553 ALL: Move that bus! 221 00:11:33.620 --> 00:11:36.693 [cheering] 222 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:40.534 PERSON: Look at this! PERSON 2: Oh, my God! 223 00:11:40.601 --> 00:11:41.903 GAIL: She grew. 224 00:11:41.970 --> 00:11:45.143 She blossomed out there in this business. 225 00:11:45.210 --> 00:11:47.214 ♪♪ ♪♪ 226 00:11:47.281 --> 00:11:50.020 ANDREA: While Jenifer was building an impressive résumé, 227 00:11:50.086 --> 00:11:53.225 Spencer got married, had children... 228 00:11:53.292 --> 00:11:55.664 and created a little life in Georgia-- 229 00:11:55.731 --> 00:11:58.604 very different from Jen. 230 00:11:58.671 --> 00:12:01.008 JENIFER: I heard about Spence getting married 231 00:12:01.075 --> 00:12:02.945 through other college friends. 232 00:12:03.012 --> 00:12:06.954 And I remember feeling a little bit of sadness, 233 00:12:07.020 --> 00:12:09.157 because we really loved each other, 234 00:12:09.224 --> 00:12:12.698 and that door had closed now 235 00:12:12.765 --> 00:12:16.238 because he had moved on. 236 00:12:16.305 --> 00:12:20.046 - After college, I actually kept in touch with Spence 237 00:12:20.113 --> 00:12:22.116 probably more than I did with Jen. 238 00:12:22.183 --> 00:12:25.090 To start his career, Spence did some video work. 239 00:12:25.157 --> 00:12:27.360 He was in communications and was a videographer, 240 00:12:27.427 --> 00:12:29.766 and he also taught. 241 00:12:29.833 --> 00:12:31.368 He was teaching video production 242 00:12:31.435 --> 00:12:33.005 at one of the local high schools. 243 00:12:33.072 --> 00:12:35.076 SPENCER: So it's going to be an awesome semester. 244 00:12:35.143 --> 00:12:36.913 I'm really excited about the show. 245 00:12:36.980 --> 00:12:38.884 Look at that. Perfect timing. Welcome. 246 00:12:38.951 --> 00:12:40.353 This is our film crew, you guys. 247 00:12:40.419 --> 00:12:42.257 I was going to explain to you why they're here. 248 00:12:42.324 --> 00:12:43.860 They're coming here to document us 249 00:12:43.927 --> 00:12:47.033 actually putting on an actual student-produced morning show. 250 00:12:47.100 --> 00:12:48.068 What do you think? 251 00:12:48.135 --> 00:12:49.471 STUDENT: No way! STUDENT 2: Yes! 252 00:12:49.538 --> 00:12:50.974 SPENCER: Yeah, it's going to be really, really cool. 253 00:12:51.041 --> 00:12:52.377 I can't wait. 254 00:12:52.444 --> 00:12:53.947 RAE: He didn't go to school to be a teacher. 255 00:12:54.013 --> 00:12:55.684 He didn't plan to get into education. 256 00:12:55.751 --> 00:12:58.957 He was a camera guy 257 00:12:59.024 --> 00:13:01.863 that would go out on freelance video shoots. 258 00:13:01.930 --> 00:13:03.499 So he didn't come at it 259 00:13:03.567 --> 00:13:05.537 from the book/educational aspect of it. 260 00:13:05.604 --> 00:13:07.675 It was from the hands-on experience, 261 00:13:07.742 --> 00:13:09.178 and this is what he knows. 262 00:13:09.244 --> 00:13:12.117 He wasn't much older than us. He was in his early 20s. 263 00:13:12.183 --> 00:13:14.923 So he was just really relatable and personable 264 00:13:14.989 --> 00:13:17.928 and engaging and supportive. 265 00:13:19.031 --> 00:13:21.570 ANDREA: While still teaching, 266 00:13:21.636 --> 00:13:24.007 Spencer joined the Air National Guard, 267 00:13:24.073 --> 00:13:26.546 and his position was a member of the band. 268 00:13:26.612 --> 00:13:28.750 - Hey, guys, what's up? It's Coach Herron. 269 00:13:28.817 --> 00:13:31.956 This is my band behind me, and Brent shooting the camera. 270 00:13:32.023 --> 00:13:34.161 So we're performing in Nashville, Tennessee, 271 00:13:34.228 --> 00:13:36.365 at this bigwig deal, and I'm working really hard, 272 00:13:36.432 --> 00:13:38.268 but I'm telling you, you should be working really hard, too. 273 00:13:38.335 --> 00:13:40.641 ANDREA: When troops get deployed overseas, 274 00:13:40.708 --> 00:13:43.580 it's just to pick up morale and be there for the troops 275 00:13:43.647 --> 00:13:45.050 that are in combat. 276 00:13:45.116 --> 00:13:48.055 [cheers and applause] 277 00:13:48.122 --> 00:13:50.193 JENIFER: Spence played in a couple bands 278 00:13:50.259 --> 00:13:51.863 with the Air National Guard. 279 00:13:51.930 --> 00:13:53.567 And one of them was a rock band, 280 00:13:53.634 --> 00:13:55.771 where they would play things like Luke Bryan, 281 00:13:55.837 --> 00:13:57.340 "Play It Again"... 282 00:13:57.407 --> 00:14:00.079 PERSON: ♪♪ Sitting around waiting for it to come on ♪♪ 283 00:14:00.146 --> 00:14:02.050 ♪♪ And here it is ♪♪ 284 00:14:02.117 --> 00:14:03.720 ♪♪ And she was like... ♪♪ 285 00:14:03.787 --> 00:14:06.225 JENIFER: Or Journey, "Don't Stop Believing." 286 00:14:06.291 --> 00:14:09.264 ALL: ♪♪ Streetlights, people ♪♪ 287 00:14:09.331 --> 00:14:13.439 ♪♪ Oh ♪♪ 288 00:14:13.506 --> 00:14:16.344 ♪♪ Don't stop ♪♪ [wild cheering] 289 00:14:16.411 --> 00:14:20.186 - He excelled in everything that he did. 290 00:14:20.253 --> 00:14:22.123 JENIFER: He was an Eagle Scout. 291 00:14:22.190 --> 00:14:24.896 He was a really great father. 292 00:14:24.963 --> 00:14:27.568 He played soccer on the side. 293 00:14:27.635 --> 00:14:29.806 JOSH: I cannot think of a single time 294 00:14:29.873 --> 00:14:31.208 in the time we knew each other 295 00:14:31.275 --> 00:14:34.447 that I got any kind of bad feeling about Spencer. 296 00:14:34.515 --> 00:14:38.322 He was just a good guy, and the guy next door. 297 00:14:38.389 --> 00:14:41.062 [light acoustic music ends] 298 00:14:41.128 --> 00:14:44.067 [dramatic music] 299 00:14:44.134 --> 00:14:46.906 ♪♪ ♪♪ 300 00:14:46.973 --> 00:14:49.310 JENIFER: For 20 years... 301 00:14:49.377 --> 00:14:51.114 I didn't get married. 302 00:14:51.181 --> 00:14:54.387 ♪♪ ♪♪ 303 00:14:54.454 --> 00:14:56.726 And it's not that I didn't date 304 00:14:56.793 --> 00:14:59.965 or didn't want to get married. 305 00:15:00.032 --> 00:15:03.339 I wanted to find the right one. 306 00:15:03.406 --> 00:15:05.476 ♪♪ ♪♪ 307 00:15:05.544 --> 00:15:08.248 I was looking for my soul mate, 308 00:15:08.315 --> 00:15:12.792 and I wasn't going to settle for anything less. 309 00:15:12.858 --> 00:15:17.568 I really thought a lot about Spence over the years. 310 00:15:17.634 --> 00:15:22.177 He kind of set the bar for what I thought I wanted 311 00:15:22.244 --> 00:15:24.849 in a future relationship. 312 00:15:24.916 --> 00:15:28.990 And then Spence reached out to me on Facebook... 313 00:15:29.057 --> 00:15:31.963 ♪♪ ♪♪ 314 00:15:32.030 --> 00:15:34.034 And just said, hey, how are you? 315 00:15:34.101 --> 00:15:35.537 Are you still in LA? 316 00:15:35.604 --> 00:15:37.140 I've been following your career. 317 00:15:37.206 --> 00:15:38.442 How's it going? 318 00:15:38.510 --> 00:15:45.256 ♪♪ ♪♪ 319 00:15:45.322 --> 00:15:47.995 I got butterflies. 320 00:15:48.062 --> 00:15:51.067 ♪♪ ♪♪ 321 00:15:53.874 --> 00:15:56.679 [bright music] 322 00:15:56.746 --> 00:15:58.817 JENIFER: Spence's class was having 323 00:15:58.884 --> 00:16:01.489 their 20-year college reunion. 324 00:16:01.556 --> 00:16:06.164 And I had commented on a photo or something on Facebook, 325 00:16:06.231 --> 00:16:08.703 and he saw it. 326 00:16:08.770 --> 00:16:11.141 So he reached out to me. 327 00:16:11.208 --> 00:16:14.448 First thing that I did was message him back 328 00:16:14.515 --> 00:16:17.555 and just say, are you still married? 329 00:16:17.621 --> 00:16:19.258 And he said, 330 00:16:19.324 --> 00:16:22.765 no, we've been apart for four years now... 331 00:16:22.832 --> 00:16:25.604 ♪♪ ♪♪ 332 00:16:25.671 --> 00:16:29.377 Because they had lost the intimacy and closeness 333 00:16:29.444 --> 00:16:32.083 of their relationship. 334 00:16:32.150 --> 00:16:33.754 So I thought, okay. 335 00:16:33.820 --> 00:16:35.991 So we spoke on the phone, 336 00:16:36.058 --> 00:16:39.197 and he said, I have to go to New York 337 00:16:39.264 --> 00:16:42.003 with some students on a school field trip. 338 00:16:42.070 --> 00:16:44.074 ♪♪ ♪♪ 339 00:16:44.141 --> 00:16:47.380 - Look behind me. Tons of teenagers. 340 00:16:47.446 --> 00:16:49.652 We're getting ready to go to the Empire State Building. 341 00:16:49.719 --> 00:16:52.424 - And then he asked, any chance you're going to be in New York? 342 00:16:52.490 --> 00:16:54.361 I know you travel for work. 343 00:16:54.428 --> 00:16:57.366 And I didn't really travel to New York very often. 344 00:16:57.433 --> 00:16:59.672 But sure enough, about a week later, 345 00:16:59.739 --> 00:17:02.912 my old executive producer from Extreme said, 346 00:17:02.978 --> 00:17:05.784 can you go to New York and help out with this show 347 00:17:05.850 --> 00:17:07.053 that we're doing? 348 00:17:07.120 --> 00:17:09.191 Of course I said yes. 349 00:17:09.258 --> 00:17:11.729 When I found out I was going to New York, 350 00:17:11.796 --> 00:17:15.436 I wrote Spence and let him know--guess what. 351 00:17:15.504 --> 00:17:18.409 I'm going to happen to be there at the same time you are. 352 00:17:18.476 --> 00:17:22.216 And so we made plans to meet while we were there. 353 00:17:22.283 --> 00:17:25.390 SINGER: ♪♪ Remember the feeling the day we met ♪♪ 354 00:17:25.456 --> 00:17:28.329 ♪♪ When the walls and the ceiling shattered between us? ♪♪ 355 00:17:28.395 --> 00:17:30.934 ♪♪ No matter what I do, I can't shake it yet ♪♪ 356 00:17:31.001 --> 00:17:34.609 ♪♪ And there's no other soul who gives me this feeling ♪♪ 357 00:17:34.675 --> 00:17:37.948 JENIFER: The night that I re-met Spence 358 00:17:38.015 --> 00:17:41.723 in New York was magical. 359 00:17:41.790 --> 00:17:44.862 SINGER: ♪♪ The way that you pull me close ♪♪ 360 00:17:44.929 --> 00:17:48.035 ♪♪ The way that you kiss me when I'm dancing on the ceiling ♪♪ 361 00:17:48.102 --> 00:17:49.505 ♪♪ The that you... ♪♪ 362 00:17:49.571 --> 00:17:51.876 JENIFER: I walked into the hotel lobby 363 00:17:51.943 --> 00:17:53.379 where I was meeting him, 364 00:17:53.446 --> 00:17:55.951 and he's leaning up against the wall. 365 00:17:56.017 --> 00:17:57.888 And... 366 00:17:57.954 --> 00:18:01.395 I just looked at him, and I was like, wow. 367 00:18:01.461 --> 00:18:04.067 Like, this is Spence. 368 00:18:04.134 --> 00:18:09.043 And he was grown up and handsome. 369 00:18:09.110 --> 00:18:12.518 And we walked around. 370 00:18:12.585 --> 00:18:14.822 We went to Bryant Park... 371 00:18:14.889 --> 00:18:17.460 SINGER: ♪♪ Oh, I love the way that you are ♪♪ 372 00:18:17.527 --> 00:18:20.967 ♪♪ I love the way that you are, oh, oh ♪♪ 373 00:18:21.034 --> 00:18:23.472 JENIFER: And just caught up 374 00:18:23.540 --> 00:18:26.679 on every piece of our lives that we could. 375 00:18:26.746 --> 00:18:29.284 SINGER: ♪♪ I love the way that you are ♪♪ 376 00:18:29.351 --> 00:18:31.823 - We just talked about everything. 377 00:18:31.890 --> 00:18:34.862 [mellow music] 378 00:18:34.929 --> 00:18:37.167 It felt like I was back with somebody 379 00:18:37.233 --> 00:18:40.439 I was really, really familiar with. 380 00:18:40.507 --> 00:18:44.481 We didn't want it to end. 381 00:18:44.549 --> 00:18:46.786 He said, well, I'll walk you back to your hotel room. 382 00:18:46.853 --> 00:18:49.625 And I said, okay, great, and, you know, we're walking, 383 00:18:49.692 --> 00:18:51.663 and you kind of bump into each other. 384 00:18:51.729 --> 00:18:54.001 And then we stopped for a minute, 385 00:18:54.067 --> 00:18:55.704 and he kissed me. 386 00:18:55.771 --> 00:18:58.075 ♪♪ ♪♪ 387 00:18:58.142 --> 00:19:01.215 It really just was loving 388 00:19:01.281 --> 00:19:03.687 and amazing. 389 00:19:03.753 --> 00:19:06.358 And he came to my hotel that night, 390 00:19:06.425 --> 00:19:09.330 and, yeah, we slept together. 391 00:19:10.767 --> 00:19:14.241 Just that reconnection and that bond 392 00:19:14.307 --> 00:19:16.111 came right back. 393 00:19:16.178 --> 00:19:19.752 And the next morning, I knew he was leaving New York 394 00:19:19.819 --> 00:19:21.956 and I wasn't going to see him again. 395 00:19:22.023 --> 00:19:24.327 And I was sad, 396 00:19:24.393 --> 00:19:27.433 because we had reconnected, 397 00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:29.571 and, wait, that's going to be it? 398 00:19:29.638 --> 00:19:30.874 That's it? 399 00:19:30.940 --> 00:19:33.881 Now we go back to our separate sides of the country? 400 00:19:33.947 --> 00:19:36.418 [line trilling] 401 00:19:36.485 --> 00:19:38.389 [cell phone ringing] Fortunately, right away, 402 00:19:38.456 --> 00:19:40.728 he started calling and sending me texts, 403 00:19:40.794 --> 00:19:43.800 and we would have late-night conversations. 404 00:19:43.867 --> 00:19:46.304 We just didn't want to let each other go... 405 00:19:46.371 --> 00:19:49.578 ♪♪ ♪♪ 406 00:19:49.645 --> 00:19:51.448 Because it would just-- 407 00:19:51.516 --> 00:19:53.252 It was meant to be. 408 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:57.895 ♪♪ ♪♪ 409 00:19:57.962 --> 00:19:59.999 It just felt right. 410 00:20:00.066 --> 00:20:01.936 ♪♪ ♪♪ 411 00:20:02.003 --> 00:20:04.608 We really believed we were soul mates. 412 00:20:07.747 --> 00:20:11.856 One month when we were dating and I was in LA, 413 00:20:11.923 --> 00:20:14.828 he wrote me a letter every single day 414 00:20:14.895 --> 00:20:17.868 of the month of March, because that's my birthday. Like-- 415 00:20:17.935 --> 00:20:19.538 ANDREA: And those are the letters? 416 00:20:19.605 --> 00:20:21.374 JENIFER: Yeah. ANDREA: Can I see? 417 00:20:27.186 --> 00:20:29.825 "My perfect Jenifer." 418 00:20:39.344 --> 00:20:42.483 "My girlfriend-- I love using that word." 419 00:20:43.787 --> 00:20:45.591 - So that was, like, three months 420 00:20:45.657 --> 00:20:47.595 after we got back together. ANDREA: Right. 421 00:20:47.662 --> 00:20:49.599 Because it was around Christmastime in New York. 422 00:20:49.665 --> 00:20:51.167 - And this was March. - And this is March. 423 00:20:51.234 --> 00:20:52.336 JENIFER: Mm-hmm. 424 00:20:54.675 --> 00:20:57.379 - "Hi, most gorgeous one." 425 00:20:57.446 --> 00:20:59.083 I don't know how you feel, 426 00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:01.722 but I have a hard time looking at this, Jen. 427 00:21:01.789 --> 00:21:03.458 When you read these and you see these, 428 00:21:03.526 --> 00:21:05.530 these are acts of love-- 429 00:21:05.597 --> 00:21:06.766 - Yeah. - And-- 430 00:21:06.833 --> 00:21:10.038 - Acts of love. Yeah. 431 00:21:10.105 --> 00:21:14.280 [sniffles, crying] So I don't think anybody can blame me 432 00:21:14.347 --> 00:21:17.721 for being so in love, you know? ANDREA: Absolutely not. 433 00:21:17.788 --> 00:21:19.191 - [sniffles] 434 00:21:19.257 --> 00:21:22.029 [dramatic music] 435 00:21:22.096 --> 00:21:26.438 - We hadn't talked to Spence and hadn't seen Spence 436 00:21:26.505 --> 00:21:28.610 since they had gotten back together. 437 00:21:28.676 --> 00:21:32.952 And he set up a FaceTime with us, 438 00:21:33.018 --> 00:21:35.924 and he asked us 439 00:21:35.991 --> 00:21:38.395 if we would be okay 440 00:21:38.462 --> 00:21:41.902 if he asked Jenifer 441 00:21:41.969 --> 00:21:43.773 to marry him. 442 00:21:43.840 --> 00:21:48.650 Now, they're older, so that seemed a little unusual, 443 00:21:48.717 --> 00:21:51.889 but we were excited. 444 00:21:51.956 --> 00:21:55.864 - I decided to move across the country, 445 00:21:55.931 --> 00:22:00.540 because he had kids still and wanted to be close to them. 446 00:22:00.607 --> 00:22:05.383 ♪♪ ♪♪ 447 00:22:05.449 --> 00:22:07.487 So he came out, 448 00:22:07.554 --> 00:22:11.361 and he and I drove my car cross-country. 449 00:22:11.428 --> 00:22:13.700 And the first night we stopped in Vegas, 450 00:22:13.767 --> 00:22:17.339 and we had gone to dinner, came back up to the room. 451 00:22:17.406 --> 00:22:20.547 And he hands me this little book... 452 00:22:20.614 --> 00:22:23.920 ♪♪ ♪♪ 453 00:22:23.987 --> 00:22:26.759 With photos of us over the years, 454 00:22:26.826 --> 00:22:31.334 and the very last page was a picture of a diamond ring. 455 00:22:31.401 --> 00:22:34.207 And he got down on one knee, and he asked me to marry him. 456 00:22:34.274 --> 00:22:37.981 And I said, can you ask me that one more time? 457 00:22:38.048 --> 00:22:42.724 Because I didn't want to forget what it sounded like. 458 00:22:42.791 --> 00:22:47.367 I really wanted to remember this experience. 459 00:22:47.434 --> 00:22:50.072 He laughed and asked me again. 460 00:22:50.139 --> 00:22:53.211 And of course I said yes, and... 461 00:22:53.278 --> 00:22:55.918 It was just... 462 00:22:55.984 --> 00:22:58.088 just wonderful. 463 00:22:58.155 --> 00:23:04.801 ♪♪ ♪♪ 464 00:23:07.307 --> 00:23:10.847 [steady music] 465 00:23:10.914 --> 00:23:14.421 APRIL: I found out that Spence and Jen were getting married 466 00:23:14.487 --> 00:23:17.193 and that she was moving back to Georgia, 467 00:23:17.260 --> 00:23:19.765 in Acworth... 468 00:23:19.832 --> 00:23:21.869 a little small town, 469 00:23:21.936 --> 00:23:23.739 but it's also pretty close to Atlanta. 470 00:23:23.806 --> 00:23:25.743 So you get a little bit of both-- 471 00:23:25.810 --> 00:23:28.616 big-city and little small-town feel. 472 00:23:28.683 --> 00:23:31.121 ♪♪ ♪♪ 473 00:23:31.188 --> 00:23:33.693 JENIFER: When Spence went to tell his ex-wife 474 00:23:33.760 --> 00:23:36.932 that he was getting married again, 475 00:23:36.999 --> 00:23:40.239 he didn't even have to tell her who it was. 476 00:23:40.306 --> 00:23:43.513 She literally said, it's Jenifer, isn't it? 477 00:23:43.580 --> 00:23:45.282 And it was crazy. 478 00:23:45.349 --> 00:23:47.453 He and I dated 20 years prior, 479 00:23:47.521 --> 00:23:52.296 but she still knew that there was something special 480 00:23:52.363 --> 00:23:54.000 between the two of us, 481 00:23:54.067 --> 00:23:57.707 and she wasn't surprised to hear that we got back together. 482 00:24:05.055 --> 00:24:07.093 JENIFER: I've been thinking-- PERSON: Oh, it's beautiful. 483 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.230 PERSON 2: It's so pretty! PERSON 2: You like where it is? 484 00:24:09.297 --> 00:24:10.567 PERSON 4: Jen. 485 00:24:10.633 --> 00:24:13.573 [soft music] 486 00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:16.011 ♪♪ ♪♪ 487 00:24:16.077 --> 00:24:19.585 JENIFER: I had waited a long time to get married, 488 00:24:19.652 --> 00:24:21.622 because I just wanted to do it once, 489 00:24:21.688 --> 00:24:23.626 and I wanted to do it right. 490 00:24:23.693 --> 00:24:26.131 And we planned a small wedding. 491 00:24:26.198 --> 00:24:30.072 About 80 people were there-- closest friends and family. 492 00:24:30.139 --> 00:24:33.679 And it was such a celebration of love. 493 00:24:35.048 --> 00:24:37.386 KELLY: It was a beautiful, beautiful night. 494 00:24:37.453 --> 00:24:40.059 There was just lights everywhere, firefly-type deal. 495 00:24:40.125 --> 00:24:41.596 I was kind of jealous. 496 00:24:41.663 --> 00:24:43.465 [laughs] I was kind of jealous 497 00:24:43.533 --> 00:24:45.269 of how the whole thing went down. 498 00:24:45.336 --> 00:24:48.341 ♪♪ ♪♪ 499 00:24:48.408 --> 00:24:50.145 RAE: It was the day before New Year's Eve. 500 00:24:50.212 --> 00:24:52.717 So it was that end-of-the-year, new beginnings 501 00:24:52.784 --> 00:24:55.188 kind of feeling to everything. 502 00:24:55.255 --> 00:24:57.694 APRIL: The wedding was beautiful. 503 00:24:57.761 --> 00:24:59.297 She looked gorgeous. 504 00:24:59.364 --> 00:25:01.234 ♪♪ ♪♪ 505 00:25:01.300 --> 00:25:02.971 JOSH: I was deeply honored to have the chance 506 00:25:03.038 --> 00:25:04.708 to officiate at their wedding. 507 00:25:04.775 --> 00:25:06.477 They were two people whom I loved dearly 508 00:25:06.545 --> 00:25:08.750 and had a lot of affection for. 509 00:25:08.817 --> 00:25:10.754 This is my favorite part in the ceremony. 510 00:25:10.821 --> 00:25:12.190 As I explained to the couple, 511 00:25:12.256 --> 00:25:16.130 this is the part where I get to say anything I want. 512 00:25:16.197 --> 00:25:18.837 And what I have been waiting to say to the two of you is, 513 00:25:18.903 --> 00:25:22.142 it took you long enough. [laughter] 514 00:25:22.209 --> 00:25:26.384 An unbroken circle, the ring is an ancient symbol of love 515 00:25:26.451 --> 00:25:28.956 because it has neither a beginning nor an end. 516 00:25:29.023 --> 00:25:31.829 It is a reminder of both your love for each other 517 00:25:31.896 --> 00:25:34.367 and of the promises you've made today. 518 00:25:34.433 --> 00:25:36.572 - Spencer was on cloud nine. 519 00:25:36.639 --> 00:25:37.941 - You will never have to question 520 00:25:38.007 --> 00:25:39.344 my love or devotion to you, 521 00:25:39.410 --> 00:25:40.479 because there's nothing else 522 00:25:40.547 --> 00:25:41.982 that I want to spend my time doing 523 00:25:42.049 --> 00:25:44.120 except showing you those things. 524 00:25:44.187 --> 00:25:45.188 I call you my dream girl 525 00:25:45.255 --> 00:25:47.426 because you are so perfect to me. 526 00:25:47.493 --> 00:25:48.629 And yet I feel like I'm dreaming 527 00:25:48.696 --> 00:25:49.932 every time I'm with you. 528 00:25:49.999 --> 00:25:52.469 - You make me laugh. You listen. 529 00:25:52.537 --> 00:25:55.276 And, most importantly, you love me unconditionally. 530 00:25:55.343 --> 00:25:58.817 Marrying you is the easiest decision I've ever made. 531 00:25:58.883 --> 00:26:01.622 [romantic music] 532 00:26:01.689 --> 00:26:03.993 ♪♪ ♪♪ 533 00:26:04.060 --> 00:26:06.297 - Friends and family, it is my privilege 534 00:26:06.364 --> 00:26:09.303 to present to you, finally... 535 00:26:09.370 --> 00:26:11.007 [laughter] 536 00:26:11.073 --> 00:26:14.381 Spencer and Jenifer Herron, husband and wife. 537 00:26:14.447 --> 00:26:17.119 [cheers and applause] 538 00:26:17.186 --> 00:26:19.090 ♪♪ ♪♪ 539 00:26:19.156 --> 00:26:22.931 - Everybody laughed at that, because they all agreed 540 00:26:22.997 --> 00:26:25.504 it was finally time that we got together. 541 00:26:25.570 --> 00:26:28.475 [cheers and applause] 542 00:26:28.543 --> 00:26:31.515 CHRISTY: Spence, I want to welcome you to our family. 543 00:26:31.582 --> 00:26:34.353 [crying] Thank you for loving my sister the way that you do. 544 00:26:34.420 --> 00:26:37.894 [sniffles] I've never seen her happier than she is with you. 545 00:26:37.961 --> 00:26:39.899 She lights up when she talks about you 546 00:26:39.965 --> 00:26:42.069 and your future together. 547 00:26:42.136 --> 00:26:45.375 I am so happy to officially be your little sis. 548 00:26:45.442 --> 00:26:47.647 [applause] 549 00:26:47.714 --> 00:26:50.185 KELLY: I had a feeling the night of their wedding that 550 00:26:50.252 --> 00:26:51.622 that was going to be something special, 551 00:26:51.688 --> 00:26:52.691 that these two, they-- 552 00:26:52.758 --> 00:26:54.193 It was the right choice. 553 00:26:54.260 --> 00:26:57.199 [upbeat music] 554 00:26:57.266 --> 00:26:58.970 ♪♪ ♪♪ 555 00:26:59.037 --> 00:27:01.975 GAIL: You could just see it on their faces. 556 00:27:02.042 --> 00:27:05.348 It was like these two beaming faces. 557 00:27:05.415 --> 00:27:08.723 They were so happy. 558 00:27:08.790 --> 00:27:15.903 ♪♪ ♪♪ 559 00:27:21.047 --> 00:27:23.184 JENIFER: After we got married, 560 00:27:23.251 --> 00:27:26.491 we just always had fun together. 561 00:27:26.558 --> 00:27:28.495 SPENCER: Hey, Jen, listen, 562 00:27:28.563 --> 00:27:31.669 I'm having a great time, and I will be skiing tomorrow. 563 00:27:31.735 --> 00:27:33.740 So we can have a lot more fun together, 564 00:27:33.806 --> 00:27:35.175 which would be great. 565 00:27:35.242 --> 00:27:38.749 And I may even hit a jump to impress you, if I can. 566 00:27:38.816 --> 00:27:40.352 I love you so much. 567 00:27:40.419 --> 00:27:43.526 - He left me a note every single morning 568 00:27:43.593 --> 00:27:46.130 by the coffee pot. 569 00:27:46.197 --> 00:27:47.567 JEFFREY: I was thinking, 570 00:27:47.634 --> 00:27:52.376 why did he feel the need to do this every day? 571 00:27:52.443 --> 00:27:54.346 That felt so over the top. 572 00:27:54.413 --> 00:27:56.284 - [laughs] 573 00:27:56.351 --> 00:27:58.154 JEFFREY: Was that a flag? I don't know. 574 00:27:58.221 --> 00:28:02.229 But it was unusual behavior, in my mind. 575 00:28:03.533 --> 00:28:06.939 JENIFER: He always checked in during the day, 576 00:28:07.006 --> 00:28:10.111 always making sure if I needed anything. 577 00:28:11.715 --> 00:28:14.220 You know, it was a big deal 578 00:28:14.287 --> 00:28:16.892 to be married to one another. 579 00:28:16.959 --> 00:28:18.562 We both love coffee, 580 00:28:18.629 --> 00:28:20.967 and so we were walking around one day and thought, 581 00:28:21.034 --> 00:28:24.073 oh, we should open a coffee bar on Main Street. 582 00:28:24.140 --> 00:28:26.010 Like, that's what this town needs. 583 00:28:26.077 --> 00:28:29.851 So it ended up kind of developing over time, 584 00:28:29.918 --> 00:28:33.559 and a wine bar became available. 585 00:28:33.626 --> 00:28:36.498 So we ended up taking the wine bar over, 586 00:28:36.566 --> 00:28:39.504 right on Main Street in downtown Acworth. 587 00:28:39.571 --> 00:28:43.144 ♪♪ ♪♪ 588 00:28:45.282 --> 00:28:47.687 ANDREA: It is really cute here. 589 00:28:47.754 --> 00:28:50.025 - So this is the old wine bar. 590 00:28:50.091 --> 00:28:51.862 - This is the old wine bar. - Yeah. 591 00:28:51.929 --> 00:28:54.133 ANDREA: Wow. JENIFER: Yeah. 592 00:28:54.199 --> 00:28:57.640 It really became that hangout for the neighborhood. 593 00:28:57.707 --> 00:29:01.114 ♪♪ ♪♪ 594 00:29:01.181 --> 00:29:04.821 There was definitely something special about that time. 595 00:29:04.888 --> 00:29:06.559 - It's been over 24 hours, 596 00:29:06.625 --> 00:29:08.529 but Jenifer and I have been a little bit busy 597 00:29:08.596 --> 00:29:11.201 running our wine bar, so here's our Ice Bucket Challenge. 598 00:29:11.268 --> 00:29:14.006 Are you ready? [both screaming] 599 00:29:14.073 --> 00:29:16.979 [Jenifer laughing] 600 00:29:17.046 --> 00:29:20.252 ♪♪ ♪♪ 601 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.224 We both, though, were working full-time jobs, 602 00:29:23.291 --> 00:29:25.630 at the same time trying to run this wine bar. 603 00:29:25.697 --> 00:29:27.266 So it wasn't easy. 604 00:29:27.332 --> 00:29:31.107 We ended up selling it about two years after we opened it. 605 00:29:31.174 --> 00:29:34.848 KIM WIGINTON: But there were things happening there, 606 00:29:34.915 --> 00:29:39.123 and she never realized anything was going on. 607 00:29:39.190 --> 00:29:42.229 ANDREA: After, you know, what happened in there, 608 00:29:42.296 --> 00:29:43.966 is that hard for you to walk by it? 609 00:29:44.033 --> 00:29:45.803 Or are you kind of over that? JENIFER: Yeah. 610 00:29:45.870 --> 00:29:47.306 It happened everywhere. 611 00:29:47.373 --> 00:29:49.778 I could let any of this affect me. 612 00:29:49.845 --> 00:29:52.517 I drive by it all every single day. 613 00:29:52.584 --> 00:29:54.086 - It's true. 614 00:29:54.153 --> 00:29:57.459 - But I don't because I want to be here. 615 00:29:57.527 --> 00:30:01.000 And I have so many good memories. 616 00:30:01.067 --> 00:30:04.340 I have great memories of the wine bar. 617 00:30:04.407 --> 00:30:06.679 ANDREA: When she first started living in Acworth, 618 00:30:06.745 --> 00:30:11.054 Jen really was able to bounce back and find opportunities 619 00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:13.392 as a producer in Atlanta. 620 00:30:13.458 --> 00:30:16.364 [soft music] 621 00:30:16.431 --> 00:30:17.767 ♪♪ ♪♪ 622 00:30:17.834 --> 00:30:21.775 JENIFER: Spencer continued to teach video production, 623 00:30:21.842 --> 00:30:23.411 now at Kell High School. 624 00:30:23.478 --> 00:30:26.217 ♪♪ ♪♪ 625 00:30:26.284 --> 00:30:30.560 And he was Teacher of the Year twice. 626 00:30:30.627 --> 00:30:34.066 He had a lot of respect at the school. 627 00:30:34.133 --> 00:30:37.472 ♪♪ ♪♪ 628 00:30:37.540 --> 00:30:40.245 Spencer also continued to be deployed on occasion 629 00:30:40.312 --> 00:30:43.351 with the Air National Guard Band. 630 00:30:43.417 --> 00:30:45.690 - Good morning, kids. Coach Herron again. 631 00:30:45.757 --> 00:30:47.660 Wanted to give you a report of what's going on today. 632 00:30:47.727 --> 00:30:49.531 We played for a middle school this morning, 633 00:30:49.598 --> 00:30:52.303 really early, for almost 890 middle-school kids. 634 00:30:52.370 --> 00:30:54.273 It was fabulous. We had a great time. 635 00:30:54.340 --> 00:30:56.177 So we got through with a huge rehearsal with the Army band. 636 00:30:56.244 --> 00:30:57.947 You can see all these flags behind me. 637 00:30:58.014 --> 00:30:59.083 We have this big ordeal 638 00:30:59.150 --> 00:31:01.053 going on tonight and tomorrow, nonstop. 639 00:31:01.120 --> 00:31:02.790 We don't stop working, and neither should you, 640 00:31:02.857 --> 00:31:03.893 'cause I'm watching you. 641 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:05.362 You know what I'm talking about. 642 00:31:05.428 --> 00:31:07.165 - He would be deployed for a little while, 643 00:31:07.232 --> 00:31:09.303 and she would miss him so badly. 644 00:31:09.369 --> 00:31:12.744 And then Jenifer might go work on a show 645 00:31:12.811 --> 00:31:16.852 somewhere out of state, and he would miss her. 646 00:31:16.919 --> 00:31:19.156 ♪♪ ♪♪ 647 00:31:19.223 --> 00:31:20.727 SPENCER: Hello, gorgeous. 648 00:31:20.794 --> 00:31:22.196 I am almost packed, 649 00:31:22.263 --> 00:31:23.966 but I wanted you to hear my voice 650 00:31:24.033 --> 00:31:25.670 one last time in Germany 651 00:31:25.737 --> 00:31:29.912 to tell you that I'm coming home to you and I cannot wait. 652 00:31:29.978 --> 00:31:32.517 - It was the ideal marriage. 653 00:31:33.553 --> 00:31:37.092 [light music] 654 00:31:37.159 --> 00:31:39.765 JENIFER: I was working in Nashville, 655 00:31:39.832 --> 00:31:43.171 and Spence had been home from being deployed 656 00:31:43.238 --> 00:31:45.510 for about six weeks. 657 00:31:45.577 --> 00:31:49.050 So I finished up my show 658 00:31:49.116 --> 00:31:52.489 and got up really early that morning 659 00:31:52.557 --> 00:31:54.226 to pack up my car, 660 00:31:54.293 --> 00:31:57.432 head back home to go see Spence again, 661 00:31:57.499 --> 00:32:00.238 because we hadn't seen each other very much. 662 00:32:00.305 --> 00:32:02.510 He had been deployed for five months. 663 00:32:02.577 --> 00:32:06.383 ♪♪ ♪♪ 664 00:32:06.450 --> 00:32:08.722 I was excited driving home. 665 00:32:08.789 --> 00:32:10.291 I've got the windows down, 666 00:32:10.358 --> 00:32:12.128 the music cranked up, listening 667 00:32:12.195 --> 00:32:14.433 to Natasha Bedingfield's "Unwritten." 668 00:32:14.500 --> 00:32:17.373 BEDINGFIELD: ♪♪ Feel the rain on your skin ♪♪ 669 00:32:17.439 --> 00:32:19.544 It was just one of those beautiful days. 670 00:32:19.611 --> 00:32:23.418 I pulled into the driveway of our house, 671 00:32:23.485 --> 00:32:27.025 expecting him to come outside to greet me. 672 00:32:27.092 --> 00:32:28.929 ♪♪ ♪♪ 673 00:32:28.996 --> 00:32:31.535 And nothing this time. 674 00:32:32.804 --> 00:32:35.342 Little did I know, I was married to a man 675 00:32:35.408 --> 00:32:37.714 who had done something so horrible 676 00:32:37.781 --> 00:32:40.754 that it would devastate our lives and change us forever. 677 00:32:40.820 --> 00:32:43.725 [ominous music] 678 00:32:47.601 --> 00:32:50.138 JENIFER: Spence had been deployed for five months, 679 00:32:50.205 --> 00:32:53.679 so I'm going home to see my husband. 680 00:32:53.745 --> 00:32:57.720 And I parked, but he didn't greet me. 681 00:32:57.787 --> 00:33:01.160 He would always greet me when I would come home, always. 682 00:33:01.227 --> 00:33:03.900 And I just thought it was really strange. 683 00:33:03.966 --> 00:33:06.170 We've been married seven years now, 684 00:33:06.237 --> 00:33:08.208 and you don't come and greet me anymore? 685 00:33:08.274 --> 00:33:10.646 [dramatic music] 686 00:33:10.713 --> 00:33:15.121 And I remember walking in through the kitchen. 687 00:33:15.188 --> 00:33:17.527 And I even shouted out to him 688 00:33:17.594 --> 00:33:21.234 'cause I could see him sitting in the living room. 689 00:33:21.301 --> 00:33:22.937 And he doesn't move. 690 00:33:23.004 --> 00:33:27.012 ♪♪ ♪♪ 691 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:28.515 He's just sitting on the couch, 692 00:33:28.582 --> 00:33:31.888 and I can see the back of his head just hanging, 693 00:33:31.955 --> 00:33:34.259 and he's shaking his head. 694 00:33:34.326 --> 00:33:36.832 So I walk over to him. 695 00:33:36.899 --> 00:33:38.802 ♪♪ ♪♪ 696 00:33:38.869 --> 00:33:43.612 And he's just saying, it's over, it's over, it's-- 697 00:33:43.679 --> 00:33:46.216 it's all over. 698 00:33:46.283 --> 00:33:47.486 And I sat down next to him. 699 00:33:47.553 --> 00:33:49.223 I said, what are you talking about? 700 00:33:49.289 --> 00:33:50.491 What's going on? 701 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:54.333 And there's this piece of paper 702 00:33:54.399 --> 00:33:57.238 on the table in front of us, 703 00:33:57.305 --> 00:33:59.645 and I notice that it says "search warrant" 704 00:33:59.711 --> 00:34:02.082 on the top of it. 705 00:34:02.148 --> 00:34:06.424 And then I just remember seeing the words "sexual assault" 706 00:34:06.491 --> 00:34:08.161 and the word "student." 707 00:34:08.228 --> 00:34:13.639 ♪♪ ♪♪ 708 00:34:13.706 --> 00:34:16.110 I look up over at the front door, 709 00:34:16.176 --> 00:34:18.047 and it was a double door, 710 00:34:18.114 --> 00:34:21.889 and there was a splinter down the middle. 711 00:34:21.956 --> 00:34:24.359 I was in such shock. 712 00:34:24.426 --> 00:34:27.299 The police have been in our house when we weren't there. 713 00:34:27.366 --> 00:34:30.707 They kicked in the door to get in. 714 00:34:30.773 --> 00:34:34.848 I just thought that maybe someone was accusing him 715 00:34:34.915 --> 00:34:36.317 of doing something, 716 00:34:36.384 --> 00:34:38.689 because there was no way 717 00:34:38.756 --> 00:34:41.160 that he would have taken advantage 718 00:34:41.227 --> 00:34:43.264 of one of his students. 719 00:34:43.331 --> 00:34:45.870 It just wasn't... 720 00:34:45.937 --> 00:34:48.976 It couldn't be possible. 721 00:34:49.043 --> 00:34:53.585 And I just got up and started pacing back and forth. 722 00:34:53.652 --> 00:34:57.226 And then the police pulled up in the driveway. 723 00:34:57.293 --> 00:35:00.532 SINGER: ♪♪ Love is ♪♪ 724 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.172 ♪♪ Our only battle ♪♪ 725 00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.045 [Laplace's "My Blood Runs Cold"] 726 00:35:07.112 --> 00:35:14.528 ♪♪ ♪♪ 727 00:35:15.462 --> 00:35:20.338 - I opened the door for them, which just feels so weird. 728 00:35:20.405 --> 00:35:23.144 It was like I was welcoming them into the home. 729 00:35:23.211 --> 00:35:26.250 But I just knew that was the next step. 730 00:35:26.317 --> 00:35:28.187 They were coming in. 731 00:35:28.254 --> 00:35:35.369 ♪♪ ♪♪ 732 00:35:35.435 --> 00:35:39.343 As they're handcuffing Spence, they didn't say anything. 733 00:35:39.409 --> 00:35:41.615 When they arrested him, they didn't say, 734 00:35:41.682 --> 00:35:45.222 you have a right to remain silent or anything like that. 735 00:35:45.288 --> 00:35:46.858 They just handcuffed him. 736 00:35:46.925 --> 00:35:50.967 And so I said, what are you arresting him for? 737 00:35:51.033 --> 00:35:54.473 Like, I wanted to know exactly what it was, 738 00:35:54.541 --> 00:35:57.379 because I thought that they were supposed to tell you. 739 00:35:57.446 --> 00:36:00.986 Well, he yells out, don't tell her anything. 740 00:36:01.053 --> 00:36:04.326 I didn't know what to make of that. 741 00:36:04.393 --> 00:36:07.867 Why was he saying that so angrily? 742 00:36:09.638 --> 00:36:12.911 The police didn't say a word. 743 00:36:12.977 --> 00:36:16.652 As they are taking him literally out our front door 744 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.524 and down the steps, I yell out to the police, 745 00:36:19.591 --> 00:36:22.295 he's a really nice person. 746 00:36:22.362 --> 00:36:25.468 He's a really good person... 747 00:36:25.536 --> 00:36:28.241 because I wanted them to know, 748 00:36:28.307 --> 00:36:31.982 this must have just been a mistake. 749 00:36:32.049 --> 00:36:35.088 It couldn't be real. 750 00:36:35.154 --> 00:36:36.625 SINGER: ♪♪ Fight ♪♪ 751 00:36:36.691 --> 00:36:41.935 ♪♪ Or you'll sink like a stone in the darkest night ♪♪ 752 00:36:42.002 --> 00:36:44.941 ♪♪ In the darkest night ♪♪ 753 00:36:45.007 --> 00:36:48.715 ♪♪ My blood runs cold ♪♪ 754 00:36:48.782 --> 00:36:50.686 ♪♪ ♪♪ 755 00:36:54.092 --> 00:36:56.497 [dramatic music] 756 00:36:56.565 --> 00:36:59.336 - I couldn't believe it. 757 00:36:59.403 --> 00:37:03.244 I just watched my soul mate... 758 00:37:03.310 --> 00:37:07.920 being led to a police car down my driveway. 759 00:37:07.987 --> 00:37:12.095 ♪♪ ♪♪ 760 00:37:12.162 --> 00:37:16.437 - Teacher of the Year is now charged with sex crimes. 761 00:37:16.504 --> 00:37:19.510 - A lot of people didn't believe that it was true. 762 00:37:19.577 --> 00:37:22.081 - There had to be something wrong-- 763 00:37:22.148 --> 00:37:24.854 maybe a student who didn't like her grade, 764 00:37:24.921 --> 00:37:28.328 or she made passes at him, and he told her no. 765 00:37:28.394 --> 00:37:30.799 - You don't always know what the truth is. 766 00:37:30.866 --> 00:37:33.471 I mean, someone can say something about somebody 767 00:37:33.539 --> 00:37:35.274 just to hurt their reputation-- you don't know. 768 00:37:35.341 --> 00:37:37.379 - I would always want to know the history of this person 769 00:37:37.446 --> 00:37:38.782 making the complaint as well. 770 00:37:38.849 --> 00:37:40.752 You know, what kind of history do they have? 771 00:37:40.819 --> 00:37:43.023 Could they have provoked something like that? 772 00:37:44.861 --> 00:37:48.768 - I had even told her, Jenifer, I'll go to court. 773 00:37:48.835 --> 00:37:51.608 I'll testify. I'll testify for his character. 774 00:37:51.675 --> 00:37:54.212 I thought, her husband has been accused of something 775 00:37:54.279 --> 00:37:56.284 that he obviously didn't do. 776 00:37:56.350 --> 00:37:58.889 His career is ruined, 777 00:37:58.956 --> 00:38:01.194 and here she is, left standing alone 778 00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:03.197 to pick up the pieces. 779 00:38:03.264 --> 00:38:05.134 ♪♪ ♪♪ 780 00:38:05.201 --> 00:38:08.074 JENIFER: There was a lot of things going on 781 00:38:08.141 --> 00:38:11.782 around this and not knowing what was going to happen. 782 00:38:11.848 --> 00:38:14.721 Are we going to be able to bail him out? 783 00:38:14.788 --> 00:38:17.392 I went and got cash out of the bank. 784 00:38:17.459 --> 00:38:19.931 And they gave Spence 785 00:38:19.998 --> 00:38:22.469 a $50,000 cash bond. 786 00:38:22.537 --> 00:38:24.641 So he couldn't get out, 787 00:38:24.707 --> 00:38:27.145 because that's just a lot of money. 788 00:38:27.212 --> 00:38:29.817 ANDREA: Jen and Spencer had just bought a house 789 00:38:29.884 --> 00:38:31.989 within, I think, that last year. 790 00:38:32.055 --> 00:38:33.559 They didn't have the money. 791 00:38:33.625 --> 00:38:36.698 With the bail set at that level, he wasn't getting out. 792 00:38:36.765 --> 00:38:41.373 SINGER: ♪♪ Everybody knows that the truth is a liar ♪♪ 793 00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:43.812 ♪♪ ♪♪ 794 00:38:43.879 --> 00:38:46.851 [vocalizing] 795 00:38:46.918 --> 00:38:51.962 ♪♪ ♪♪ 796 00:38:52.028 --> 00:38:55.468 - The story broke about Spence's arrest 797 00:38:55.536 --> 00:38:57.372 and was all over the news. 798 00:38:57.439 --> 00:38:59.644 NEWSCASTER: A Cobb County Teacher of the Year 799 00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:02.015 has been indicted on sexual-assault charges. 800 00:39:02.081 --> 00:39:04.086 NEWSCASTER 2: Herron is a video-production teacher 801 00:39:04.153 --> 00:39:05.188 at Kell High School. 802 00:39:05.255 --> 00:39:06.792 NEWSCASTER 3: An investigation found 803 00:39:06.859 --> 00:39:09.296 that a student is alleging she had sex with Herron. 804 00:39:09.363 --> 00:39:14.272 SINGER: ♪♪ Everybody knows that the truth is a liar ♪♪ 805 00:39:14.339 --> 00:39:16.410 ♪♪ ♪♪ 806 00:39:16.477 --> 00:39:19.416 [vocalizing] 807 00:39:19.483 --> 00:39:22.524 JENIFER: I was getting phone calls and texts all the time, 808 00:39:22.590 --> 00:39:26.063 and people were making comments about it 809 00:39:26.129 --> 00:39:28.401 on Facebook and on his page. 810 00:39:28.468 --> 00:39:29.871 My sister called me. 811 00:39:29.937 --> 00:39:33.077 She said, you really need to take down his social media. 812 00:39:33.144 --> 00:39:37.452 So, two days after Spence was arrested, 813 00:39:37.520 --> 00:39:41.561 I got into his Facebook account. 814 00:39:41.628 --> 00:39:48.408 ♪♪ ♪♪ 815 00:39:48.474 --> 00:39:53.117 That led me into his email account. 816 00:39:53.184 --> 00:39:56.223 So I get into his email. 817 00:39:56.290 --> 00:39:59.129 [suspenseful music] 818 00:39:59.196 --> 00:40:02.570 And I click on the folder that says "photos." 819 00:40:02.636 --> 00:40:05.208 And I start scrolling down, 820 00:40:05.275 --> 00:40:06.912 and all of a sudden, 821 00:40:06.978 --> 00:40:10.218 there's a photo of a woman half-naked. 822 00:40:10.285 --> 00:40:11.921 And then there's another one. 823 00:40:11.988 --> 00:40:15.061 And then there's another different woman, naked. 824 00:40:15.128 --> 00:40:17.499 ♪♪ ♪♪ 825 00:40:17.567 --> 00:40:18.969 And I just kept looking, 826 00:40:19.036 --> 00:40:23.512 and it was woman after woman after woman. 827 00:40:23.579 --> 00:40:26.383 ♪♪ ♪♪ 828 00:40:26.450 --> 00:40:29.356 And then I found emails 829 00:40:29.422 --> 00:40:31.561 and messages 830 00:40:31.628 --> 00:40:35.034 between him and these women. 831 00:40:35.101 --> 00:40:37.774 ♪♪ ♪♪ 832 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.980 He was living a double life. 833 00:40:41.046 --> 00:40:45.455 Who was this predator that I was married to? 834 00:40:45.522 --> 00:40:47.660 I never would have imagined 835 00:40:47.727 --> 00:40:52.235 the scope of what he had done. 836 00:40:52.302 --> 00:40:55.609 ♪♪ ♪♪